Posted on April 27, 2013
Do women think psychopaths and sociopaths are hot?
Answer: Yes, most of them.
Do women have rape and/or violent abuse fantasies?
Answer: Yes, most of them.
Are women crazy?
Answer: Yes, most of them.
April 27, 2013
The purpose of this article is to horrify the ladies and cause the comments to devolve into such a riot that we have to shut down the thread.
Vanessa, I’m already fairly depressed about the state we have found ourselves in, made worse by being with my parents, who are from a functional generation.
But 50 shades? It’s not even written well. Can I go and vomit now?
In the hope of increasing chaos… Tori is not a phony, but she describes them so well.
I was inspired by this: http://empathological.wordpress.com/2013/04/20/the-man-the-tylenol-and-the-toyota/
Newsflash: Women tend to get raped because they’re attracted to men who tend to rape women. Feminists don’t want to admit this, so they develop an army of non-rapey men to go after the rapey men, all while eluding said army to sleep with the rapey guys, knowing that the rapey guys are going to control themselves because of fear of said army.
And they say women can’t think strategically.
The Karamazov Idea
Alpha fucks, beta bucks emotional support. Even parody gets it right.
OK. Do you want the NSFW song about this by Tori? For she’s written the dynamic in three minutes, but it ain’t family viewing.
If you are going to leave the Karamazov one up, here is the feminist dynamic in five twisted minutes (or how Tori makes men swallow the red pill)
The ideal is a man who’s just a tiny little bit rapey. Just enough to make you slightly nervous, but not enough to scare you.
Hmm. The ideal is one that is enough rapey to make succumbing to his wiles not at all *your* fault, because you are an innocent damsel who batted futilely at his manly chest, but not to be hurt at all. Then he’s supposed to marry you.
You people don’t read enough Tarzan.
“Do women have rape and/or violent abuse fantasies?”
No. I’ve only just learned of them last year and I doubt most women around the world have heard of such utterly ridiculous nonsense.
It seems that a minority of North American, Canadian, UK and Western European women might be into fantasizing like that. Western Civilization is, like, so awesome, innit mate?
April 28, 2013
My running theory is that women’s sexuality turns masochistic when the men around them are too tame.
It’s a majority in the youngest cohort, depending upon how you phrase the question.
Women need to shut up and start saving the culture.
Women don’t save anything. That’s just not what we do.
“It’s a majority in the youngest cohort, depending upon how you phrase the question.”
What date are you basing this on? Young cohort where? Which demographic?
“Ah, the honeypot attracts trollettes. More power, Professor, and it may LIVE!!!!”
May, this ain’t just western. Five minutes with Google gets you…
May, women under 30. The males in that cohort had the cojones medicated out of them.
I loved the Parody, jousting penises for the win!! Tori Amos Leather Live was good too, very artistic.
Hmm Vanessa, late night blog postings on rape fantasies? You might regret this in the morning. 🙂
“OK. Do you want the NSFW song about this by Tori? For she’s written the dynamic in three minutes, but it ain’t family viewing.”
I can’t stand Tori’s voice and singing style so I googled the lyrics to see what’s so “NSFW” and there’s nothing NSFW in them, so I’m guessing the video was racy?
And Chris, I read the link with the story of the sage and the example of marketing pressure cookers. What does that have to do abuse or rape fantasies? I assumed you were addressing my comment because you said “May”. However you quoted someone else.
“May, women under 30. The males in that cohort had the cojones medicated out of them.”
Perhaps they are the ones with the abuse and rape fantasies then. I did once meet this certain guy……oh never mind.
May, you are so innocent. The song is about her being a submissive. And the indian link refers back to Hindu gods coercively seducing mortals.
On Dominant Fantasies. Most men know that they are at risk of being jailed if they are in any manner coercive. Get real.
Vanessa, thank you for your honesty.
I don’t have rape fantasies, FWIW. I doubt many men do.
@ Julian. Most of us have to learn that women are not made of bone china. We tend to put women overmuch on a pedestal. So our fantasies are much more white knight or strong leader…
@ May. Bring data or I will bring the snark.
I have fairly typical male fantasies. Possibly not as gentlemanly as yours, Chris. But, like I said, no rape fantasies. Fair dinkum.
I have a close female relative (cough, cough) who admits to fantasies of being spanked by Captain Kirk.
Julian, there are too many Trekkie Redshirt jokes. There is even a game built around the redshirts meme.
Completely off topic, my rugby team has got more points this week from the bye than in the eight games they have lost, which I think is worse than the Aussie Rules team you support.
I don’t feel like changing for women. Can’t we just drug you instead so you’ll leave us alone?
My team won their first game and have lost every one since, although they did creditably against a very strong team yesterday (the Geelong Cats).
Chris, I predict this thread will have disappeared in a few hours. Faster than a redshirt on a new planet.
Is that why women are converting to islam at an alarming rate?
I think men and fathers(and mothers) in general should not coddle women. I think this coddling puts itself in the way of female maturity and encourages irresponsibility and entitlement on the part of women. Feminists are a prime example of such entitled mentality. The 1950’s are a prime example of the disaster of idle hands and household boredom on the part of women. Leaving them prey to the whispers of satan.
I see more and more white women in hijabs all the time. I highly doubt they are converting on their own. More likely they are like the young Boston girl who married the bomber. Falling in love with Muslim men, marrying in the throes of lust, and converting.
As for the rest of this bizarre post that my lovely friend has run, I don’t know quite how to respond, LOL.
Maybe tomorrow I’ll be less speechless.
Oh and that goal of male feminists that Empathological mentioned; the lift? I thought that was hilarious.
Women like objectifying men.
Most men know that they are at risk of being jailed if they are in any manner coercive. Get real.
We are all criminals now.
Yes, women are the maintainers and possible saviors of culture insofar as they are the rearers of children and transmitters of values. Thus they need to shut up, marry, put out, and give birth to children they raise as Christians. Several children apiece. That IS what women are SUPPOSED TO DO. The alternative is the continuing suicide of the West.
It’s “horrify”. So, today we’ll find out if you’re less “horrified”. It’s very frustrating when people try to choose their own vocabulary when I’ve already instructed them on the proper nomenclature.
But, but… futuro, making babies is hard.
Yes, the lift was good. I felt moved to respond in some way. Also, the FN post I tweeted was moving in the same direction. I was inspired. (Translation: It’s all their fault. Evil white men made me do it. Also, booze.)
Falling in love with Muslim men, marrying in the throes of lust, and converting.
This. Muslim men are the West’s not-so-bad boys, taking over from the middle-class black men who have gone full-whitey and are too boring to bother with anymore. They sort of fulfill that vegetarian vampire meme, except the few of them who go batshit and blow everything up or throw acid in your face. You get the reassurance that such men are out there, and that your man might be one of them. How hot is that? *swoon*
Most men know that they are at risk of being jailed if they are in any manner coercive.
Well, yeah. That’s what makes it exciting.
Chris, I used to barrack for Randwick in the Sydney rugby union competition. I think I liked their colours. There used to be a competition here in Canberra. The dominant team was called Royals. No idea why.
The ideal is one that is enough rapey to make succumbing to his wiles not at all *your* fault, because you are an innocent damsel who batted futilely at his manly chest, but not to be hurt at all.
The lady doth protest too much, methinks. LOL
he purpose of this article is to horrify the ladies and cause the comments to devolve into such a riot that we have to shut down the thread.
This humor I like….a lot.
Glad to have somehow inspired your provocative questions. And, not just a little truth in your mini-post.
Wish I could own the term, the lift, but it came from a raunchy FM radio show in the mid 80’s hen I lived in in Chicago, a guy named Steve Dahl would use that term and I always thought it was funny. I just adapted it to the goals of the Yashars of the world. Its apt, no?
Hey, that was what I was hoping for when I was 14. I had a very well thought scenario out in which I could give up my virtue without it being my fault. -snickers- All without exposure to romance novels. Well. 14yo girls probably are self-generating romance novels.
I don’t have that kind of swoon anymore (since I don’t do “fantasies” that don’t involve my husband and thinking up inventive things to do with him). But you will note that I married someone who is 14″ taller than I am and (at respective goal weights) weighs 80lb more than I do.
Thinspo: Being portable. I miss being tucked under an arm and walked off with.
I think the more nuanced version is you want him to want you so bad he doesn’t care what you think. It’s not the worst way to live, frankly, I mean the opposite is someone who’s always asking and who has time for that? A man who is a bit of a taker (and I don’t mean a creep or a lout, come on) gets a woman out of her head, more than sexually, which is a very good thing.
A prudent man moves quickly – once he gets the green light.
Running through on amber or, worse, on red, is a recipe for disaster.
I was speaking of married people, of course, and a certain degree of implied consent (among normal not mean stupid people). I don’t mind my husband expressing his impatience. It’s ultimately a win/win. I don’t think it would be as exciting if I were just overtly available all the time. While I’m doing the other stuff he expects, he is free to interrupt, but sometimes it’s easier to get my attention than others. Like I said, who has time for that, lol? I have no experience with the red light, but the amber – well – he’s driving, and I have no desire to bail out of the car.
Yes, it is a bit different in a marriage. But I prefer to get full consent. Then I do as I please.
That is why I don’t have rape fantasies. I want willing cooperation. Complete capitulation, not a fighting retreat. (I think I am veering into bodice-ripper language, but the point should be clear.)
I understand what you’re saying – I don’t have rape fantasies, either, nor would my husband participate if I did – but I don’t mind that he organizes my priorities, let’s put it that way.
Well, if someone you’re fornicating with accuses you of rape, then I’ll not feel too sorry for you. You must like living dangerously. If it’s your wife accusing you, then…. feminists ruined sex for the rest of us.
Vanessa’s observations about DWL women digging bad boys give me hope. When the sons of middle class Whites finally–I pray–wake up and gang up and start stomping uppity immigrants and burning down the ghettos, maybe they’ll reclaim their priority status as sperm suppliers in the eyes of Negrophile White girls. Until then, it’s permanent beta status for Jason and Brandon.
“wake up and gang up and start stomping uppity immigrants and burning down the ghettos”
So you want white middle class men to act like the immigrants you detest. The racism is strong with this one…
There is a certain sense within most women that they want a warrior that will protect them but they don’t want to live with an alpha that rules them. Goes back to the Feminine curse — your desire will be for a man and he will rule over you.
There is a certain amount of fun, when married, in seducing the wifey. Particularly when she kind of wants to be firmly but gently seduced. Being sexually available and willing tells men that they remain desirable: chasing the wife has the same kind of effect.
And the best revenge for the harpies in this world is to live well, at times extravagantly, but well.
Mr. Alexander: not unprovoked, mind you. I meant in response and in defense.
And the minorities should fear the whites going fascist. We are not that far from our forefathers, who cheerfully bulldozed and filled mass graves. And no, not merely the Germans.
And if one is racist for desiring a society with minimal diversity and its concomitant problems, then, GUILTY!
Oh, and before we go into the race argument again…. today has a reading about a woman blowing around 45K of perfume to wash Jesus feet.
I don’t mind my husband expressing his impatience.
I absolutely love the way you put this. Precisely.
It doesn’t take much to get white guys all riled up and chest-bumping, does it? They’re like, “Finally! A woman has noticed that we are also in full possession of masculine accouterments. Let us mark this day with pompous celebration, manly grunting, and drinking the blood of our enemies.”
It’s sort of cute, sort of tiresome.
Glad to have somehow inspired your provocative questions. And, not just a little truth in your mini-post.
Thanks, although me writing about rape fantasies is about as exciting as dishwater around here.
Since rape and race are always hot topics, I suggest you write a bestseller. You can call it Fifty Shades of Brown.
Oh, I got a ROFL! I was only expecting a LOL.
Have you seen this? I can’t see TC, and IMF is gone, but it is interesting:
Here is the original:
TC is everyone’s dirty little secret. LOL We have a tiny readership, it’s just that most of our readers are bloggers.
We’re sort of all-over-the-place, so I don’t know if we’d fit onto that chart.
Here’s the newest version: http://habitableworlds.files.wordpress.com/2013/04/darkenlightenment1.png
Yes, the right readership can mean that low numbers are still influential.
It is interesting to see all the different types of “reaction” covered and related. Though I haven’t looked at the methodology.
Dedicated a thread to the topic.
Let’s get back to discussion how totally hot my husband is, or whatever the topic was.
No, no. The topic was how women want sensitive, tender rape.
Oh right. Yes, it’s important to rape them the right way, otherwise they’ll get very angry with you. It’s a very exact science, similar to cold fusion.
LOL I was just thinking to myself about the intersection of rape and race, and I recalled the reaction I always have when Black Rape Statistics start getting thrown around. It’s like… I know you’re trying to make black guys look bad, but you just make white guys look like a bunch of impotent pansies. All you’re doing is reminding women that black guys are waaaay hotter. *facepalm*
“White men are better because they’re totally harmless and they hear the word ‘jail’ and squeal like a girl.” Total own-goal. Where’s the marketing department when you need them? If you’re looking for a man to help you survive the Zombie Apocalypse, then you’re better off with the more rapey one than the cuddly one. Duh.
It is so risky for an American man to have sex with a woman that I am surprised it ever happens.
You know, I was thinking (the most dangerous five words in the English language)…
Why were those young men videotaping themselves violating those girls and then passing it around? It seems so crazy. Don’t they know they’ll probably get in some serious trouble?
Then it hit me, and I got this incredible sinking feeling: they probably got laid like tile after that. OMG
What I mean is, you’d think the other women would recoil and horror, but if you think a minute more, you realize that they’d happily line up to be next.
Can’t. help. myself.
DINGO: Oh, wicked, bad, naughty, evil Zoot! Oh, she is a naughty
person, and she must pay the penalty — and here in Castle Anthrax, we
have but one punishment for setting alight the grail-shaped beacon. You
must tie her down on a bed and spank her!
GIRLS: A spanking! A spanking!
DINGO: You must spank her well. And after you have spanked her, you
may deal with her as you like. And then, spank me.
VARIOUS GIRLS: And spank me.
DINGO: Yes, yes, you must give us all a good spanking!
GIRLS: A spanking! A spanking!
DINGO: And after the spanking, the oral sex.
GIRLS: Oral sex! Oral sex!
GALAHAD: Well, I could stay a BIT longer.
Yes. One of my wife’s favourite scenes.
Can’t imagine why.
“Then it hit me, and I got this incredible sinking feeling: they probably got laid like tile after that. OMG”
I wouldn’t bet against that. Truly, the inmates now run the asylum. Enjoy what is left of our civilization while it lasts, barbarism is making its comeback.
My grandfather once said that a Yankee woman would rather be beaten once and raped twice than shown any deferential manners…so…maybe he was onto something?
Or maybe he was just a jerk.
April 29, 2013
“May, you are so innocent. The song is about her being a submissive.”
I think you reversed it in your mind. Tori is singing, “hand me my leather”. If anyone’s a submissive its not the one ordering her partner to hand her the leather whip!
“And the indian link refers back to Hindu gods coercively seducing mortals.”
Its a seduction story sure, but what does it have to do with rape/abuse fantasies?
Plus, there is nothing immoral in it since the sage was not already married nor had he taken any life long vows of celibacy. He was a single eligible guy and after he married he continued to do his sage work, which is the norm in Hindu civilization. Also you missed the point that the entire purpose behind the seduction was to set the stage for the arrival of the earthly embodiment of God (Rama).
“On Dominant Fantasies. Most men know that they are at risk of being jailed if they are in any manner coercive. Get real.”
I’m sorry, I don’t understand this statement wrt to the context of anything I’ve written thus far.
I have direct experience with dating Middle Eastern Muslim men and I can tell you that the non-Middle Eastern and non-Muslim that I know who date or have dated these men do so primarily because they are handsome and they also know how to woo and romance women old school style. However when if and when they get to forceful with their missionary agenda (which some Muslims are wont to do) then we dump them. Of course there are a minority of us (not me) who do marry these men and end up converting in order to do so, and those marriages very often end in divorce and in the women leaving Islam altogether or at least slacking off in the strict observance of it.
Chris – We tend to put women overmuch on a pedestal
I put women on a pedestal because otherwise I need a tin can and string to talk to them. They be short.
There’s other reasons to do so as well.
TC is everyone’s dirty little secret.
The dirty little secret is that a couple of black (well one half-black) chicks run this blog, LOL.
Also note, in addition to many of these conversions to Islam being reversed later upon subsequent divorce (divorce rates are relatively high in the pan-Arab world), many of them are just perfunctory and cultural, done to appease the older in-laws. Its not that all Muslims strictly follow Islam or even agree with it. Many are just “culturally Muslim” and in order to have an Islamic wedding the other would be spouse must convert at least on paper first.
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